Senator Paul, you do not know what you’re talking about, quite frankly, and I want to say that officially. You do not know what you are talking about. — Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
Senator Paul, you do not know what you’re talking about, quite frankly, and I want to say that officially. You do not know what you are talking about. — Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
In latest clash over Wuhan lab, Fauci tells Sen. Rand Paul: ‘You do not know what you’re talking about’
It’s a tone not typically taken in the august chambers of the U.S. Senate — except when Anthony S. Fauci and Sen. Rand Paul square off.

The two men — the country’s top infectious-diseases doctor and the junior Republican senator from Kentucky — have a history of heated exchanges and escalating accusations, with Paul often using the congressional hearings to inveigh against Fauci over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic and Fauci responding with an increasingly vigorous defense.

On Tuesday, they traded their most barbed public remarks yet, accusing each other of lying during a fierce debate over U.S. funding for a lab in Wuhan, China.

“Senator Paul, you do not know what you’re talking about, quite frankly, and I want to say that officially,” Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said at one point. “You do not know what you are talking about.”


The argument, which echoed an earlier dust-up, centered on Paul’s claim that the National Institutes of Health awarded a grant that partially funded a project that relied on “gain-of-function” research, a controversial practice that involves enhancing a virus in a lab to try to anticipate future pandemics. This type of experimentation has come under growing scrutiny as U.S. intelligence agencies investigate the origins of the novel coronavirus and the theory that it could have accidentally leaked from a lab.

Officials have repeatedly denied Paul’s allegations, and in a hearing in May, Fauci told the senator that the National Institutes of Health “has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research” at the Chinese lab, the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

On Tuesday, Paul suggested that Fauci had lied: “Dr. Fauci, knowing that it is a crime to lie to Congress, do you wish to retract your statement of May 11 where you claimed that the NIH never funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan?” Paul asked.

“Senator Paul, I have never lied before the Congress, and I do not retract that statement,” Fauci replied, adding that the research had been “judged by qualified staff up and down the chain as not being gain-of-function.”

Paul then accused Fauci of “dancing around this because you are trying to obscure responsibility for four million people dying around the world from a pandemic.”

“I totally resent the lie that you are now propagating, senator,” Fauci shot back.

The Washington Post’s Fact Checker examined Paul’s previous claim that Fauci had overseen NIH funding of gain-of-function research in Wuhan and found it to be exaggerated and misleading, awarding it “Two Pinocchios.”

On Tuesday, Fauci went further.

“You are implying that what we did was responsible for the deaths of individuals,” he said. “I totally resent that. And if anybody’s lying here, senator, it is you.”
Read the full article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/20/fauci-paul-wuhan-lab/